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WoW Forever PvP: ranks, honor, marks and what you can buy

How the 14 PvP ranks work in WoW Forever, how Honor and Rank Points differ, what each rank unlocks, and what Honor, Marks of Honor and the Insignia trinkets buy. With the beta prices, clearly marked.

WoW Forever brings back the old rank system with a new interface. You earn two separate things from PvP, Honor and Rank Points. Honor is money you spend. Rank Points are never spent: they only move you up the ladder, and your rank unlocks what Honor is allowed to buy.

HonorCurrency for PvP gear. Cap 25,000 since the 1 October beta.
Rank PointsNever spent. Weekly cap rises as you climb, up to Rank 14.
Marks of HonorOne kind per battleground. Stack of 30. A win pays more than a loss.
The InsigniaRank 2 trinket and the Rank 4 necklace.

Read this first. Most numbers below come from the beta and from third-party guides, not from the live game. Honor prices rose by about half during the beta, the Honor cap changed, and some PvP vendors were reported missing in the capitals after the 5 November update. Beta figures are marked. Check the price at the vendor in game.

Honor and Rank Points in plain words

  • Honor comes from killing players, winning battlegrounds, PvP quests, holiday-week bonuses and the weekly season tasks. It buys PvP gear. Spending it does not lower your rank.
  • Rank Points come from the same activities and decide your rank. There is a weekly cap that rises as you climb: the pre-launch PvP panel showed 0 of 750 for an unranked character and a ceiling of 24,750 at Rank 14. Treat that as unconfirmed.
  • There are no rated arenas and no rated battlegrounds in WoW Forever. All PvP is ranked through the rank system.

What each rank gives you

There are 14 ranks, named like the original game's. The top rank is Grand Marshal for the Alliance and High Warlord for the Horde. The reward table is the same for both sides. The first badge is the Alliance rank, the second the Horde one.

Rank1
A tabard
Rank2
The PvP trinket: the Insignia
Rank3
PvP cloaks
Rank4
A PvP necklace: the Master Sergeant's Insignia
Rank5
Combat healing and mana potions
Rank6
A second, elite tabard
Rank7
A Battle Standard
Rank8
Epic bracers and the epic belt seal
Rank9
Epic boots seal
Rank10
Epic gloves seal
Rank11
Mounts: a Black War mount for each faction
Rank12
Epic legs and shoulders seals
Rank13
Epic chest and helm seals
Rank14
Epic PvP weapons

Source: Blizzard's rank reward table as reported by Gaming Route. No titles are listed as rank rewards.

The Insignia: Rank 2 and Rank 4

PvP Insignia trinketRank 2. About 3,500 Honor in the beta, epic upgrade about 2,000 more.
Master Sergeant's InsigniaRank 4 necklace. 10 Darkspear marks plus about 5,000 Honor in the beta.

How the gear path works

  1. Rare (blue) PvP armor can be worn from level 55 and needs no rank. It costs Honor plus Marks of Honor from one specific battleground.
  2. To make a piece epic, you buy an Emboldened Seal for that slot with Honor. The seal needs a rank, from Rank 8 (wrists, belt) up to Rank 13 (helm, chest).
  3. PvP weapons are epic only and unlock at Rank 14. There is no rare version to upgrade.

What the armor costs (beta prices)

Honor figures are the September beta prices. Guides estimate about 50 percent more after the 1 October changes, shown in brackets. Estimates, not confirmed live prices.

SlotMarksRare piece (Honor)Seal (Honor)Seal rank
Cloak10 Arathi Basin3,000 (~4,500)rare onlyRank 3
Wrists10 Warsong Gulch3,000 (~4,500)750 (~1,125)Rank 8
Belt10 Arathi Basin4,000 (~6,000)1,000 (~1,500)Rank 8
Boots10 Darkspear Islands5,000 (~7,500)1,000 (~1,500)Rank 9
Gloves10 Warsong Gulch5,000 (~7,500)1,500 (~2,250)Rank 10
Shoulders10 Arathi Basin4,250 (~6,375)1,500 (~2,250)Rank 12
Legs15 Warsong Gulch6,000 (~9,000)2,000 (~3,000)Rank 12
Helm15 Alterac Valley6,000 (~9,000)not listedRank 13
Chest15 Arathi Basin6,250 (~9,375)1,750 (~2,625)Rank 13

Nine rare pieces come to about 42,500 Honor at September prices (about 63,750 after the changes). The epic seals add about 9,500 (about 14,250), without the helm seal, whose price is not listed.

Rank 14 weapons

Two-handed

Demolisher, Glaive, Battle Hammer, Stave, Sunderer, Claymore

20 Alterac Valley marks15,000 (~22,500) Honor

One-handed and ranged

Hand Cannon, Swiftblade, Mageblade, Handaxe, Warhammer, Longsword, Punisher, Dirk, Hand Blades, Bullseye, Repeater

10 Darkspear Islands marks8,000 (~12,000) Honor

Shields and off-hands

Aegis, Barricade, Tome of Power, Tome of Restoration

10 Darkspear Islands marks7,000 (~10,500) Honor

A dual-wielder pays for both weapons. At September prices the whole route, nine rare pieces, the seals and one two-hander, was about 67,000 Honor, or about 100,500 after the changes.

Marks of Honor

Warsong Gulch MarkWrists, gloves and legs.
Arathi Basin MarkCloak, belt, shoulders and chest.
Alterac Valley MarkHelm and the two-handed weapons.
Darkspear Islands MarkBoots, one-handed weapons, shields.
  • Marks are not interchangeable between battlegrounds. They stack to 30, up from 20, according to the 15 October beta notes.
  • Beta data suggests a win pays 3 Marks and a loss 1. Datamined, not confirmed for the live game.
  • Marks are also handed in for reputation quests with the Darkspear Raiders (Horde) or the Theramore Expeditionary Force (Alliance). Exalted unlocks that faction's tabard. Their vendors sell trinkets, rings, cloaks, weapons and armor at higher reputation, plus consumables, at Merchant Coast (Horde) and Northwatch (Alliance) in the Barrens.

Battlegrounds

Warsong Gulch

Capture the flag. Marks for wrists, gloves and legs.

Arathi Basin

Capture and hold points. Marks for cloak, belt, shoulders and chest.

Alterac Valley

The big one. Marks for the helm and two-handed weapons.

Darkspear Islands

New in Forever, levels 30 to 60. 15 against 15, four capture points and a central flag, first to 2,000 points. Queue at a capital battlemaster or the faction base portal in the Barrens.

  • Stacking Plainsrunning in battlegrounds was removed in the 5 November hotfix.
  • Horde PvP rewards are sold at the Hall of Legends in Orgrimmar. PvP vendors in Orgrimmar, Stormwind and Dalaran were listed as temporarily unavailable.

Twinking

Rank gear is level 55 and up, so it does not matter for the 19 and 29 brackets. If you twink, see the level 19 twink guide and the other brackets: 29, 39, 49 and 59.

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